in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight the big picture yesterday there was yet another fatal mass shooting this time in the suburbs of portland oregon any more totally preventable shootings most there be before washington finally and acts an assault weapons ban also after suffering major blows in last month's election it's clear that the republican party has lost its way but are conservatives in washington ready to face facts and do what's necessary to once again become a relevant and mainstream political party and republicans are busy sharpening their

knives getting ready to tear apart medicare prevent millions of senior citizens from having access to health care what happens if president obama caved to republican demands and stick senior citizens with a raw deal i tell you and i feel it to. you need to know this while tens of thousands of unionized workers made their voices heard in front of the michigan state capitol yesterday protesting their state's new right to work for less law conservative media was busy was something else they were busy trying to paint union protesters as vile at some point yesterday's demonstrations a tent belonging to the koch brothers funded organization americans for prosperity which was set up to help promote the passage of the right to work for less laws was torn down amid applause and cheers by union protesters take a look. god

god thank god . thank you thank you god thank you thank a as you'd expect conservative media outlets seized on this and for the rest of the day described protests outside the michigan state capitol as violence what really happened yesterday what really happened and how did the americans for prosperity tent really come down my next guest was there and has the real story joining me now is tom duckworth union member and witness to yesterday's protests tom welcome. they so what what really happened with the americans for prosperity ten times. ok

you what i saw right at the rally. about quarter after shannon after i stopped thirty organizing checkpoints what are you gave us the lay of the land how to behave in just because we're in what the schedule was and while they were there they also told us that americans for prosperity have to set up and give us some advice not to. engage them or. be provoked by them so i immediately hit it what are the chances that we're going to check out what they were doing i went over there and i talked to a guy for a brief moment and he. didn't agree with it he said. and while i was there i proposed gentleman. and a jacket and a big baseball cap a big n.r.a. letters on it. then later on i think it was about an hour later i half i walked around in the march around the capitol i took a shortcut back to the capitol steps which led me past in one of the chance and. i

saw that gentleman with the n.r.a. cap in and. he was the one who'd been a rap side the americans for prosperity ten all the plan is correct and he was inside the tent earlier and he was talking to the people that were inside the tent and he was milling about the the entrance i think he was controlling what was going in and out that was my impression anyway later on when i saw him again he was doing the straps of the site wall pulls and getting them in and then subsequently the. the big main tent poles small ones came down but the they came down from the inside they were they basically fell straight down instead of. over like a top like a tree would topple over they basically just came straight down so looked like to me that the came down from the inside on purpose and so. so it looked to

you like this is americans for prosperity person or somebody associated with them who had been controlling access to their own tent who was the guy who was walking around the town knocking down the not going down the straps and then the and then the tent pole came down are you suggesting that this was basically you know the tent was obviously there as a as as theater as provocation or something as you know to make a point are you suggesting that part of that tent being there was taking the tent down so they could blame that on the protesters that sure that's what that's what it looks like to me i think that the. this scene got a little heated and then. they took that as an opportunity to then start the chant down and then you saw all of those people protests the protestors cheering. and some of them stepped on the tent and they realized soon after that there were still people in the tent and then other people call them back and they say get off the tent and then they went to union members this was the police or firefighters union

members went in and they got them out of that tent and they cut the tent open and they got them house and. the scenario that's been described where there isn't a mob of union members armed with knives as just so the union members to cut the people out of the tent and essentially rescued them yes they did a survey arkell that's not exactly the story the fox news is telling you were there alone no yes ok time then the police horseback showed up and they cleared everybody out and then i left after that another part of the rally ok tom tucker thanks a lot for being with us tonight certainly. it's wednesday you ready to rumble joining me for tonight's long liberal rumble are christopher bedford editor of the daily caller and dan bongino conservative

commentator welcome to you and former senator real candidate for the republican party and welcome back to today and i grab my purse for let's get right to it here let's talk about foreign aid about this and i want to start someplace else and there we are always in the are all right let's focus on mission the right to work for less long there's a dark what we were just talking about dark history what comes to solving unions on may second not actually i want to set this up the. unions have historically not only been a balance to the power of organized capital but they've also been in many countries a power to the balance of organ or balancing power against organized government or government. over powerful government and it was the unions who who stood up against pinochet for example done in chile so and tried to stand up against hitler and may second one nine hundred thirty three hitler perhaps apocryphally said we must close

union cough ases confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison we must reduce workers' salaries and take away their right to strike is a picture of the essay seizing a union building this is from the book richard by richard evans the coming of the third reich europe hitler began suppressing the trade unions along with communists and social democrats in february thirty three part of his rise to power they would attack and ransacked offices steal equipment beat up and imprison members usually those leadership roles trade union officials in leadership roles where the sent to concentration camps or killed outright both franco and mussolini did the exact same things as did pinochet as did i mean you the list goes on and on and now you've got middle east guys who are who and have been for some time going after unions so you know at a certain point isn't it if the conservative position is we don't trust government shouldn't the conservative position be we support giving power to the people through things like labor unions damn well if you're looking for someone who's anti-union i am not your guy my brother is a union member i.b.e.w.

i was a new york city police officer and although we didn't have a union it was a benevolent association it was essentially a union i am for freedom of association only that is not an anti-union stance i believe that union should have to compete and provide a quality product which mine did they do that well and that's great the p.b.s. was wonderful to me and i joined voluntarily because i wanted to be there but forcing me that is might this is my only argument forcing me to enter a union. as a condition of working and then taking my money and donating it against my will to causes i may not support there's nothing american about that it's not a thank you had all their unions all across the united states cannot use your union dues for things like political action unless they have your consent but what are they doing with the seventy percent of money that there's there's two levels of you pay your basic union membership which covers the cost of running the union and then if you win if you want to you can pay more and that goes into the into the the pacs

or whatever they call these things through but christopher just to this point if if i in fact when i was in from when we started a radio show back in vermont we had a small business i needed health care the reason i needed health insurance and so we joined the local chamber of commerce to get health insurance it's arguably union of businesses now what if i said to them i would like that health insurance that you guys are able to negotiate but i want to pay my membership dues will be voluntary associations back to your first point i've always really been a vocal against tyranny tocqueville pointed that out chamber of commerce would be a good example the union would be a great example fighting for people's rights but it's interesting that now they're requesting the government that you said they protect us from to compel people to do something that's actually i think pushing towards tyranny and to your point of real riders and so you know let me let me just drill into that a little bit if people who are union members are getting a benefit from that union being in there the union is negotiating on their behalf they've got it so there is some compensation they're worried about

a free riders about it while i'm speaking specifically to free riders because that's what that's what right to work for us laws create and you know if you walk into mcdonald's and say i'll take one of those burgers by the way i'm choosing not to pay for it because that's my my free choice they're going to look at a pretty hearty well that's what i'm saying i'm saying that the what these rights are right for worked right to work for less laws do is they allow some union members to steal union efforts and not pay for them you know the union would was only able to represent the people who wanted to. isn't it so they don't get as big of a club to hit to hit as over the head with the right to work the less i mean the guys who had to report this you don't that's simply not true and under its can negotiate for people who are just in the union you don't have to go the other way around under federal law if you will if this was a union shop and we were all employees and you chose not to be in the union let's say you guys chose to be in the united shows not to and i went over and i kicked the boss upside the head and then i come to the union and say you know i just kicked the boss upside the head and i'm afraid he's going to fire me i want you to

look into it because i think i have the right to kick him upside the head. the union actually has to by law defend that employee even if that employee is not paying union dues the union is compelled to do but a union can negotiate for wages that are separate from that is and promotions another film i felt as though there is a free riders are getting all those benefits of unionization i mean other writers are not free riders as this is something that happens in any society with any any system it happens in capital conservatives always protest against you know that's there that's your argument as well ministers that take away someone's will and does this work for less than that studies show back and forth whether or not people make more make last thousand eight hundred dollars a year on average in rich work for less states people make less than they do and there are definitely studies to say otherwise and also the amount of money that's going to come in the state was supposed to jobs at a flea in indiana well balanced out people actually have jobs but the right to work for less these guys want to write to not have to pay around nine hundred dollars a year and union dues and if they don't want to take the benefits of the union well

it depends on maybe some people doing what i think a lot of others don't ok well we'll be back with more of the nice long liberal all right after the break. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom hartman welcome to the big

picture. here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a donor. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares an awful lot about my country you sir are a fool you know what kind of mind their terrorist cells in your neighborhood all want to give us a defeat terrorism on the on the liberal and the christian point you. can see your beliefs about it because you know the corporate media distracts us from what you and i should care about because they're profit driven industry that sells a sensationalistic garbage he calls it breaking news i'm happy martin and we're going to break that.

back along liberal rumble joining me are christopher bedford and dan bungy know and let's get back to it. let's talk about foreign nations and our domestic industries according to data from deal logic chinese investors bought big pieces of a record number of industries the united states just so far this year they've spent ten billion dollars acquiring u.s. companies far exceeding their previous record spending binge in two thousand and seven which was nearly nine billion dollars following the footsteps of saudi i mean this isn't just about china the saudis own a big chunk of america the british the german the french companies they're all buying them many of these state and chinese companies want everything from electric car battery manufacturers to movie theater chains isn't this really all the

consequence of these insane free trade laws that say that that seventy permeable membrane that we used to have around ourselves that these other countries have kept intact you know if you want to import export a car out of the united states into china it's about a twenty two percent import tariff into china you want to bring in chinese car in the united states there's virtually no tariff it's two percent two point one percent i think it is where is your attention is and you know worked on it's only free trade has led to the greatest degree of human prosperity in literally the history of humanity being alive right now is being alive in the most prosperous time of or at least disagree with protectionism where alexander hamilton proposed protectionism seven hundred ninety one in his letter to congress you can read it is letter on manufacturers use the boy plan congress adopted it in seven hundred ninety three we had averaged tariffs and seven hundred ninety three to the one nine hundred eighty s. of thirty one percent and it strangled our ship in it it built the biggest industrial democracy in the world but it also destroyed one of the greatest shipping empires what a sell massachusetts was to protectionism. you know how i'm willing to give up

shipping to have manufacturing all across the president with the politicians but the guys in salem aren't too happy about. i love you guys didn't they when i lived in my car i have to tell you sometimes i think you go bad how can you explain to be commonsensical if that's even a word we'll make it up for the show tonight that if another country can build something better and more efficiently than we can that we should dedicate assets to it here now we should build it here even though china can build it cheaper and more efficiently we should spend more money and allocate more fixed assets here to do that it's just those lines that i mean any real wealth of nations the famous quote where he talks about the invisible hand of the sentence begins with by prefer in domestic manufacturers to two imports or some variation on that the person x. is on the self-interest in a way is as if it was a visible enemy it's all this week it is anniversary of the boston tea party just kind of an interesting thing on protectionism so knowing people yeah this sunday telling people which products they can buy. made

a bunch of other guys get real drunk dressed up like indians and starts invent the laws and i don't think we want to go back to all the rest well that's what we get was what we have now the british east india company was a monopoly of the chinese and this and this situation it's really interesting kind of like a spy versus spy except crony versus crony into crony capitalism china the other cash coming in and buying especially as a one to three company which was subsidized by the government so that the united states can compete with china on green energy according to barack obama it fails china comes in a scoops up the company i think that's pretty good but my point is that what you know what everybody else always did with tariffs what we do with terrorist for two and a half three centuries arguably five centuries i mean go back to henry the fifth tudor policies i mean the first establish this in the fourteen hundreds in england. what when those tariffs fell in the eighty's all these other countries went to vat taxes which they could reverse when they export of things so right now functionally germany has a twenty percent import tariff or a twenty percent export subsidy japan does china does taiwan does the list because

it just goes on not all the many major manufacturing countries in the world we don't we're the only ones hanging out here in the wind and we're the only ones that are being dust realize when reagan came into office a quarter of our g.d.p. was industrial production now it's eleven percent there's no major democracy in the world has been able to survive with manufacturing below twenty percent well you still haven't answered my basic question of how making products we don't make officially more expensive for americans to buy is somehow beneficial economically because those americans who are manufacturing them have good jobs and they use those wages to spend money in the domestic economy and that money circulates within the economy but unless one up in a because of all of the products of more expensive now they're there at the end they have good jobs you just add on the terror of how is it not more expensive oh of course it's more expensive but people are paid more right where you know i'm a perfectly willing to spend an extra five bucks for a computer if i make an extra so you know i don't waste your time producing something that another person can produce more efficiently than you why do you think in the macro it's any different there is your i.q.

the logical extension of your argument is let's make everything in countries where people were will work for twenty dollars an hour it's and i'm talking about productivity i'm not talking about low wages i'm talking about countries that can make things tom the united states is not the capital of rubber dog toys anymore and we are never going to be we are we we are the highest productivity country in the world we can argue and that's our work or prevent somebody but you know just me and my aren't we but no are our middle class been white so we quitters have been flat ever since reagan's presidency no that's not true that is simply not accurate app that is not true if you inflation adjust the dollars median individual income has actually there has been household income has remained flat but there has been a wage gap but that's because we are growing into more ideal oriented fields you guys are less valuable because of the idea. that's a good point a factory jobs are going to offshore a bit of. a lot of crystal you want to put a final point on that i think you said it pretty well i don't think we should hit the consumer with higher prices and it sets up trade wars it always does where we raise tariffs other company countries raise tariffs and the only people who end up getting screwed are the consumers in their countries and in our countries or or

arguably the countries that want to the companies who want to engage in international trade and we can get into a whole thing about you know what happened with smooth holly and how it didn't actually you know but let's let's let's move on republican governor scott walker in wisconsin looks like he's trying to rig the next election currently wisconsin is one of these states that has the highest levels of voter participation the nation wide because it's one of a handful of states have same day voter registration he wants to do away with that he came to the people he said i want to do wear the same day voter registration stuff because it's expensive it is a lot of extra paperwork actually if and his own state scored this and his own administration said actually if you do away with a voter registration then all these extra provisions come in where you have to protect the integrity of the vote through that chain from early registration to same day registration it's actually cheaper to have same day registration but he says i want to still do it anyway because it's going to reduce the number of people well he didn't say this but you know paul way are excited and want to reduce the number of people who are eligible to vote who are bailable the vote. so meanwhile

the attorney general eric holder indoors to the national voting standards in a speech yesterday saying a recent study by the macarthur foundation found that nearly ninety percent of those who voted in last month's election would support creating national voting standards that's why it's important for national leaders academic experts and members of the public to engage in a frank thorough inclusive discussion of how our election system can be made stronger and more accessible shouldn't we do this with jeff and we have a frank discussion. the thing about the national standard i'm suspicious of almost anything that comes out of the federal government entirely a top down system i don't think works for which i would be very seen what happened as i was voting when this. i mean you know the long lines i mean it's terrible it's pretty much the return of jim crow those long lines at the polls i have never seen the federal government decrease how long it takes me to wait in line for anything but this is this is well this is not federal and the long lines national stature rice is likely to happen in neighborhoods that are voting democratic that that was

what they found in those last election in fact in one nine hundred eighty paul why rick who was an advisor to the new york campaign ok this is a very he was he's no longer with us but he was speaking at a republican conference down in dallas to a group of christian activists republican activists and this is what he had to say about voting areas. how many of our christian have what i call. wrong good government they want everybody to vote. i don't want everybody to vote elections are not won by a majority of people they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now i don't matter of fact our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up only populous goes down and then he helped found the american legislative exchange council which proposed these laws and rules to reduce the number of voters i mean dan how is this not anything other than what it looks like

we've talked about it on the on this panel before and i agree with you in some respect i think this argument gets tainted of one end is there going to be some degree of voter disenfranchisement without with a hard voter id law of course let's not ignore it there is it going to be at least one person who can vote says no to any words on the same day registration well i'm talking about is expanding opportunity to vote if we do that and can we at least exchange that for a voter i.d. law where we phase it in over time and we ensure if you can't vote because you don't have to take a provisional ballot we will come to your house we will we will do whatever we can to ensure every vote is counted but it seems like the liberal argument is no voter id at all meanwhile the republican argument the good republican argument from my perspective is yes access is always a good. i think the democracy but the bush administration spent seventy million dollars and seven years looking for illegal voters people who were committing voting fraud and they found like thirty of the more people die every year from television really believe that i have a bridge it goes over the bay i will sell you for

a campaign donation if i run again if you actually know the offload although i doubt it but it's not what you think there's a guy who ran for congress and can do an investigation now who had one machine that was off by hundreds of votes and i'm not saying it was intent may have been a mistake i'm all in favor get rid of the machines yeah go back to paper and you know this is what the irish just sold their machines for scrap metal my point is that voter fraud exists let's not pretend that doesn't this voter disenfranchisement exist with yes of course but let's acknowledge him i think the attorney general's got a good idea and i think you're right i mean there is voter fraud and there needs to be a frank discussion over how to deal with it i'm not sold on same day voting or not same day voting it doesn't seem to make a difference and states have gotten rid of it has made a huge difference and turn out. but i understand really the argument for getting rid of it i'm good on scott walker percent actually know what this costs money we did a study and we're not going to go through with this now he is he is still trying to do it he's not backing off he said we did the study yes it's going to cost money but we're still going to do it and that's all that he said this cost way too much i'm not going to burden the state with that did he said. i'm pretty sure i read

that that was his quote when he thought it cost more to get to have same day registration when the state came back and said no it actually cost less save the registration he said oh well we're still going to get rid of it and in north dakota you know you don't even have to register to vote you just show up and demonstrate there's egypt but you know it's there's not even a registration process it seems to work just fine so. i am. i think we've just got to i think we would wrap it up so. thank you very much christopher dan thanks great to build up thanks a great thanks for having me thank you for coming up. thanks . thanks thanks thanks. crazy a lawyer man's best friend in the driver's seat all right so we all know dogs are smart but surely there's no way that smart enough to drive

a car wrong team of animal trainers new zealand is successfully trained a true approach is to drive a car the dogs are able to put the car park change gears accelerate all while keeping both because of the will of course the training took quite some time since the trainers had to teach each act of driving separately to the dogs they also use mockup drivers seats to help the dogs learn the various processes the dogs got on the open road they were given some assistance with the driving a did most of it on their own a while approaches have become really excellent value drivers were as if they don't break for cats. if you want to hear even more incredible animal news stay tuned for our science segment later in the show. going up there is one phrase that describes why many in today's republican party would rather listen nonsense than choose to face the facts or next we'll tell you what it is explain what happened to ronald reagan's republican party in a special edition of conversations of great minds.

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i think. i'm. saying. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok you don't know i'm tom harvey welcome to the big picture.